Chet Baker, Baby Magnet
You gotta love this little cheesebox in her itty bitty Steelers dress and even tinier Krocs. Lookit those LEGS! The slightly bigger one is a piece of work, too. I like taking pictures of little kids as much as I like taking pictures of dogs, flowers and birds. They're in kind of short supply around our house.There's something about the friendly, wide-open face of a Boston terrier that attracts adults and kids alike. They just look like nice doggies, perpetually puppylike and cute. And they are. Chet Baker loves little kids and babies; he strains at the leash to go greet them. At 2 1/2, he's ceased jumping up on people except when he's home and greeting them in the driveway or at the door. So there's little danger that he'll bowl anyone over, and parents appreciate that.
Chautauqua is a bastion of cute, cute babies, little pink bald babies, lots of strawberry blonde ones, and even one that was almost the spitting image of Phoebe, with wise ice-blue eyes and tufts of red hair. Her name was Maya, and I ate her up with my eyes, remembering. Of course I had no camera. Rats.
But I was armed and ready for this little Steelers fan. Oh, my. What an angel, set on earth.
There are lots of folks from Pittsburgh up here.This sweet little boy was enamored of Chet, but already had been taught enough about dogs to offer Chet the back of his chubby little hand to sniff before petting him. Babies know so much more than we give them credit for.
photo by Bill of the BirdsWe're in what I dubbed the Dog Zone of the big open-air amphitheater at Chautauqua. It's over on the right side, and during a big concert there will be five to ten different dogs there, listening with their owners just outside the gates. I prefer hanging out in the Dog Zone to sitting on the hard wooden pews, because if we feel like having some ice cream, we can saunter off without offending anyone. Also, I am now a dog person.
It was really fun to have Chet up in New York with us. People enjoy meeting him and asking about him, and we enjoy introducing him to them, and to other dogs. The most common comment: What a nice little dog. I 'd like to have a dog like that. (Sure to make any dog owner glow inside.)
photo by Bill of the BirdsThis was Baker's third season at Chautauqua. He was just a puppy of 9 months when he first came here. He knows the apartment like the back of his paw, and it was hilarious to see him scoot down the stairs and charge around inside, remembering the place and its smells when we first arrived. He was ecstatic when we arrived and put his bed in the living room, because for the entire ride up (7 hours) he was apprehensive that we might just drop him off in the kennel on our way here. That dog thinks too much. He was to sleep all the way home, knowing the destination.
Note taut leash. Most of the time, Chetty pulls so hard on that thing you could twang it like a banjo string. It's an UpCountry Lead. Man, those are nice leads and collars. Hard to go back to the cheap stuff when you've used them! His pattern is the lavender dragonfly, called Meadow. Phoebe thinks it's a bit fey, but I say he's man enough to wear lavender.There are so darn many fancy dogs up here that I was sure we'd spotted my first duck-tolling retriever. But he turned out to be a golden retriever x border collie. Jeff Gordon, my personal dog guru, had him guessed right. Overall, Chet's been a perfect gentleman on this trip, at least when meeting strange dogs. I'm discouraged about his leash skills, though; he pulls like a husky no matter how many times I correct him with a sharp word and yank of the leash. Like, hundreds of times. Chet, no pull! (yank). Chet, no pull! (yank) CHET! NO PULL! (yank). Stop. Take him by the muzzle. Talk sternly to him. Resume walking. Chet! No pull! That's the sound track for our walks. I'm about desperate enough to get him a Halti collar, though I wonder whether it will work on his super-short nose. He is as strong as a husky, too. My arms are sore! Any tips on leash-straining dogs would be more than welcome. To save you time: We also try the ploy of stopping dead when he's straining hardest; of shortening up the leash the more he pulls, and even of turning around and going the opposite direction for awhile, then going the direction he wants to go when he stops pulling. Arggggh. I will not resort to a choke chain, or something that hurts him when he pulls. We probably wouldn't have this problem had I been willing to do that.
Footnote: I did make some progress in our last walk, when I pulled the leash straight up, momentarily lifting his front feet off the ground, every time he tightened up on it. That got his attention, and he was better after that. But, to allude back to Katdoc's training advice, which is never to try to make your dog other than what it was bred to be, I feel like I'm fighting a basic breed trait: boundless enthusiasm for life. It's part of what I love about Chet. And I think it's what makes him pull at the leash, so eager for the next experience. But man, I wish he'd shape up.
Now I'm going to sit back and collect advice from dog people. Let's see what y'all can do.
Labels: Chautuaqua, Chet Baker, cute babies, pulling at the leash


33 Comments:
Give it up jz and get those wheely shoes ( or what ever they are called)
CB can pull you around town while you relax.
Eventually he will tire and then he should walk nicely.
Until he sees something furry and chasable(?).
RR
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Pulling - a tough one. "Training" collars (I HATE the word choke collar) when used properly can be very helpful in correcting forging (pulling when walking ahead of you) but I won't attempt to explain correct usage in this context. It is a very "hands-on" kind of lesson, not conducive to comments section. Used incorrectly (to choke) it is a dangerous instrument.
I won't use pinch collars (look like medieval torture devices.) They have their place, which is in the hands of an expert on hard-core cases, but are too often mis-used as a "quick-fix."
I have some positive reinforcement methods to teach heeling (walking at my side on a loose lead) but again, too long-winded for this spot and needs demonstration and visual aids.
Standard harnesses are a joke when it comes to dogs who forge ahead, especially when used on breeds of pulling dogs. I laugh at people with Huskies in harnesses ("He pulled so hard at the collar...") Huskies? In harnesses? They can pull a whole sled, so what makes you think a harness gives you any control? Dogs can pull HARDER in a harness, so that doesn't do any good for anything but the smallest of dogs. They still pull, but at least they don't pull you over.
EXCEPT ... At my last vet convention, I visited the Premier booth (makers of Busy Buddy toys and the Gentle Leader head halter; http://www.premier.com/) to talk to them about control devices for Boston Terriers. (Still preparing for my future Boston pup.) You are right, their noses are usually too short for effective use of a head halter like a Gentle Leader. (Halti is another brand name.) BUT, Premier has a new kind of harness, with a martingale loop that "redirects forward motion." The point of attachment for the leash snap is in the front of the chest, not back over the shoulders, and dogs who pull put pressure on themselves, thus "self-correcting." I bought one, even though I don't have a little dog to fit it yet. It is still in the package, but it looks pretty effective.
If you supply the dog, I have the harness. We can see if it works.
~Kathiofu
A good friend of mine has had luck with harnesses too...especially ones where the leash clips at the bottom, right at the dog's chest. They still pull, but they only get any leverage when they pull sideways (which almost never occurs to them).
AP in WI
RuthieJ:
I'm not suggesting you change your 14.5 yr old dog's routine, but maybe for your next large breed pulling dog, you could try a Gentle Leader or the Easy Walk harness. See Premier's web site, previous answer. Standard harnesses give you no control, and large breed dogs who pull hard enough in a harness can injure people, sometimes very seriously, if they pull you down to the ground or into traffic.
FYI,
~Kathi
I agree wholeheartedly with KatDoc (how could you not?), especially with appropriate use of training collars. Initially the walks won't be a lot of fun for either of you, but soon it will come naturally and Chet will follow your lead, not pull you hither and yon.
I do not expect my dog to heel unless commanded to do so. But neither do I expect her to pull. She watches me for cues as to the direction we plan to go.
With dedicated work, Chet will learn the differences between running freely on Indigo, walking with Mether on leash, and heeling when that's what mether wants.
Some people don't mind if the dog takes control of the walk, but I personally feel it's best for all if the pack leader is in charge. That assumes Mether is the pack leader.
What about a Holt Collar?
It is a kind of harness, with two circles--almost like a figure 8. We use this on our dog, and she still forges ahead but at least she isn't being choked. That combined with a leash that extends gives her the illusion of being a bit more free range.
More dog collar advice, if you're interested:
http://www.dogpsychologycenter.com/products/i-collar.php
I love all your posts, but especially the ones about Chet and the Bunnehs. ;)
Just enjoy your toned neck, arm and shoulder muscles. They'll never be as firm again if, God forbid - you should ever be dog-less.
Experience talking, here :0(
One word, dear, Skijoring!
i'm so happy to see there are so many well informed dog owners that commented before me! front-close (not the back-attaching husky ones. hah!) harnesses are absolutely the way to go. i worked for a while at a very privileged humane society in a wealthy town full of spoiled and ill-behaved dogs with well meaning owners that swore by these. i sold and fitted hundreds of them on dogs of all sizes i saw nothing but sucess (okay, perhaps a one in fifteen failure rate)switching out old collars and chains and tired arms with "sense-ation" harnesses. they're a bit pricey - about $35 - and you have to make sure you don't leave the dog alone with it (since he can reach to chew it off) - but they're pretty miraculous and simple.
the original is the sense-ation/sense-ible harness you can find here: http://www.softouchconcepts.com/
i am more familiar with these. theyre sturdy and have a great repair service if it does get chewed through (five bucks a strap) chet would probably be a small.
also
premier - the folks that made the nose-harness came out with a similar product that i've heard is also excellent. http://www.premier.com/pages.cfm?id=74
i think this one was already mentioned.
i encourage you to try it out. just make sure it fits very SNUGLY. every time i see a poor person being dragged by their pet i want to buy them one myself.
for the record, if you do have to resort to a walking "training" collar, go with the prong ("pinch") instead of the chain, they look meaner but they're much safer. the loop-chain ("choke" -- shudder) ones are dangerous - they're like nooses, they just keep getting smaller and cause a lot of damage while the pup is too excited to notice or care.
I have to chime in on this one!
The Halti collars are excellent and saved my sanity with my dog, but I can see how it probably wouldn't work with Chet.
To my mind, a choke collar is too punitive - especially so with a dog as intelligent as your Chet - if he's attuned to you and your tone, you ought to be able to work with that (rather than against the bond of trust as with a choke).
I'm trying out the new harness from Gentle Leader that Katdoc mentioned with my new pup - come have a look at him!
He's too little for me to tell if it will really be effective, but I think the important part is that the leash attaches in the front, rather than over the pup's back. It works on the same theory as the Halti.
It doesn't seem to offer the level of control that I'm used to with the Halti, but it's better than a regular harness and much better than listening to a dog choke.
Not sure if Petsmart is out your way, but they have a very liberal return policy; you could try one out and return it if it doesn't work.
Julie,
First, those photos made me grin from ear to ear. Bostons are always admired, even when they're riding in the car with me. I enjoy watching other drivers wave to them :o)
Bostons will pull. Only advanced dog training will correct it, I guess. They are just too eager and inquisitive. Sniffers and hunters.
The harness is the way to go. Both of mine wear them during walks or any time I want to restrain them. If I attach a lead to their collars, both of them will choke themselves to death and start those odd honking, inverted sneezes. They seem to pull less often with a harness. It's an easier walk for all.
The harness is wonderful. I have a connector so I can walk both with only one lead. It's great!
The comments about dogs who "still pull or forge but at least aren't being choked" concern me. Why? Because although your dogs aren't being hurt physically, you are reinforcing bad manners, and potentially setting yourself and your dog up for trouble in the future.
When I see a dog and a person walking down the street, I sit back and watch for cues. Who is leading this walk? The one who directs the speed, direction, and purpose of the walk. If the dog is walking on a loose lead, at his person's side (not necessarily on a tight "Heel" but within an invisible circle near the person's left leg), if the dog stops when the person stops and goes forward when the person continues, if the person's face is relaxed and smiling, then I can surmise that the dog is probably well-mannered in all other aspects of his life.
If the person is being dragged down the street, then has her arm jerked as her dog suddenly stops to sniff a tree, if her face is scrunched up and painful, if she can't stop to window shop or greet a fellow pedestrian without her dog lunging, pulling, barking or jumping up, then I assume that this dog will growl when asked to get off the couch, snap when touched if he doesn't want to be, and fight having his toenails trimmed.
These may be broad generalizations and dangerous assumptions, but odds are I'm right more than I'm wrong.
Someone once told me that every time you ride your horse, you are training her. You may be teaching good habits or you may be letting her learn bad ones, but every time you ride, you teach her something.
I submit that the same thing holds true every time you walk your dog. What are you teaching him today?
Just my opinion,
~Kathi
I have a "plan" for breaking our dog of the forging behavior, but, honestly, I don't take the time it takes to make this happen, and continue to have a badly behaved dog as a result.
We worked with a trainer once that told us, "every time he pulls or puts tension on the leash, stop walking. Only take a step forward if he has come back toward you to release tension. If he stands with leash taut, you stand still also. The dog is motivated to go forward--if you oblige him by allowing it, it will continue."
But, when I finally have a free evening and look forward to going for a walk, the last thing I want to do is take 30 minutes to go 30 yards. So, I have a badly behaved dog.
Ironically, I shake my head at families with small children who act up at the icecream parlor. It seems that temper tantrum they're throwing would stop in a minute if the parent walked out of the shop and they all went home without icecream. But the parent wants the evening at the icecream parlor, too--so it's tolerated that time, and the next, and the next...
I have to be willing to NOT have an ideal walk for several weeks--then, maybe, I'll have a well-behaved dog and enjoy that walk even more.
Or..this may work.
Using his regular leash and collar,
hold the leash short so he must walk next to you, don't allow him to walk ahead of you, it is important that he can at least see your feet moving. When he pulls, give the leash a quick jerk, while saying "heel" in a calm voice, don't say his name, don't show emotion. Do this same routine every time he is on leash, try to practice several times a week. When he leaves slack in the leash, give him a word of praise in a positive tone of voice and keep walking. He could learn this quickly because he is so smart or it may take lots of repetition, since he has all that youthful high energy. Best of luck with the charming CB.
Oops ! Forgot to add, start with 5 minute practice sessions and repeat at least daily.
Well, I'm no help about the Chet pulling, but darn those are cute babies!
Jayne. Thank you. I knew that my little Baker issue would completely eclipse the original intent of the post, which was to shine a light on some of the most gorgeous babies I'd seen in some time. I can't stop looking at that little number in her cheerleader dress. Just goes to show you how helpful and ummm...slightly, pleasantly dogcentric? all my beloved readers are.
I'm all psyched about trying out Katdoc's martingale harness this fall. Part of the problem with Chet is that he is on a lead only when we travel, and then there are so many new stimuli that he's all ate up. This dog goes wherever he wants, chases whatever he wants as a matter of course (ahhh, country living!) The nearest (gravel) road is 1/4 mile away and, having been given complete freedom to come and go, he chooses to stay.
Heron, I did exactly what you suggest, shortened the lead until he was right by my feet. I'd give him more lead when he kept slack in it. I'd say "Goooood heel" when he'd walk nicely. Which, I believe, he took to mean, "It's fine to pull now." This is a dog who learned to shake hands in about one minute; he'll sit, stay,roll over, lie down...Like Nina, I have my desires, too, and it's a huge drag to have to compromise your walk with endless repetition and correction. Sounds like time for an Easy Leader for both of us, huh?
Julie, how much of a chow hound is Chet? Before marriage and children, I used to do dog obedience training. This worked great to keep my dogs attention. Let Chet know you have some yummy treats. Something not too messy to handle or too crunchy (slows you down because he'll be searching for crumbs). I used to use sliced and quartered hot dogs carried in a baggie. Use them sparingly along with lots of praise.
Of course, if you don't use them sparingly, he'll get so fat he'll only be able to waddle by your side, which I guess solves the problem too!
Kathy
Circleville, OH
You'll get no dog advice from this kitty-lover, but I too love CB and wish I had one like him. Of course, I also have a benneh (inside) and I don't know how a Boston would feel about this....
The baby in the photo would look oh-so-much cuter in a Dallas Cowboys dress, however.
No expert advice here. I've always had dogs that walked beautifully beside me if I spent even just 15 minutes working with them on it. And then came Ruby the Rat Terrier. It's a bit embarrassing walking her -- just like you described Chet. The leash taut; the choking noises, etc. Sigh. Nothing seems to sink in. So, I walk around and all who know me think I'm just not bothering to train her.
I think the solution will involve a different collar and daily walks. She's a smart cookie. I have to make it worth her while. In the meantime, we just get to enjoy a little choking with our walks. Ahem.
Nothing like that terrier personality, is there? All my previous dogs were Labs who tend to be big lugs who want to make you happy. Ruby wants to make me happy too but doesn't see why I shouldn't be happy doing things her way! :)
Dear Julie,
Go to www.jefferspet.com and look into a Sporn training halter. It stops pulling without choking the dog. There is also one called gentle leader easy walk harness that redirects the pressure across the breastbone so no choking. Good luck, all mine either pull like sled dogs or roll over on their backs refusing to walk on leash. Bt's are such a joy but rather headstrong.
Good luck,
Jane
Dear Julie,
Go to www.jefferspet.com and look into a Sporn training halter. It stops pulling without choking the dog. There is also one called gentle leader easy walk harness that redirects the pressure across the breastbone so no choking. Good luck, all mine either pull like sled dogs or roll over on their backs refusing to walk on leash. Bt's are such a joy but rather headstrong.
Good luck,
Jane
Hi Julie,
I'm back. I'm with Nina. I'm a lazy dog trainer. Always planning to do it but never get it done. I agree with Katdoc, too. She's full of excellent advice. You can tell who rules the roost when dogs are walking their owners.
When walking and talking about my Bostons, there is a different story. They have a yard to run in - lead free. If a few weeks go by without a walk (like lately) and we finally get out, they try to drag me. They're enthusiastic hunters and act like they've been sprung from jail. The last 3/4 of the walk is pleasant. They don't heel, but they don't pull, either. A regular harness works for me since they are only 24 pounds a piece.
In the early nineties I had an American Cocker who walked like a dream. I received MY training in doggy obo class and it worked so well. The trainer showed me how to use a choker chain during training but after Casey was walking well, I switched to a regular collar. Then, I was excited to learn and Casey was invited to advanced obo. I could put her in a down stay and walk a city block away - awesome!
Now, after having raised two more puppies of the Boston variety, I'm worn out. Yes, they embarrass the heck out of me sometimes - especially when Chloe lifts her leg in Petsmart. We stopped those outings :o)
No more dog advice; simply some observations. It seems pretty clear that some people would rather tolerate having the dog in charge of the walk than to put in the time to work and practice. And if so, that's fine.
I suspect that for these people, only the adults are able to "walk" the dog. Wouldn't it be nice if the children could also enjoy walking the dog?
We also live on a lot of acreage and our dog runs free on our walks on the trails most of the time. He only needs to come if I call him. But he knows that when I put his leash on him, he must look to me for direction. And it really doesn't bother him at all. He's happy to be walking with me. And I'm happy to be walking with him.
Go, Janey! LOL! I needed an afternoon laugh :o)
Our dog Polly used to pull us terribly. She's a bull terrier type dog and is VERY strong. We got a halti for her, placed it on her nose when we go on walks. A week later and she walks next to me like a dream.
Nina: EXACTLY! If those parents would, just once, walk their children out of the shop without ice cream, there would never again be a tantrum in the store. Instead, they threaten: "If you don't settle down right now, ..." but still buy the treat, and so the kids know they aren't serious.
Same with dogs: If you resign yourself to some challenging "walks" where nobody has any fun, the dog learns that forging (or lagging behind, equally annoying, IMO) isn't worthwhile, and then you (almost) never have the problem again.
Heron: Right on with your advice! - short sessions, be sure dog can see your feet, calm voice/no emotion, don't use his name, etc. I do have one suggestion.
Saying "heel" and jerking your dog to the heel position is the way I was taught to teach heel. It is in all the classic books and all the standard classes and I always did it. But, one trainer taught me something different, and it works.
Her theory was that the "Heel and jerk" technique leads to negative associations in the dog's mind. Inevitably, as you repeat yourself and jerk him, your voice will get firmer or harsher (you can't help it, it just will no matter how hard you try) and the dog will think "Every time I hear that ugly sound, I get jerked around. Why should I want to be in the spot she calls HEEL?"
Instead, she taught us to always say "Heel!" with a happy tone of voice as we started off and "Good Heel" when the dog was in position. Every time he is out of position, we had different phrases to use as we put him back - "Get up" if he was lagging, "Get back" if he was forging and "Get in" if he was too far out to the side (wide.) It really works for me.
Kathy: "High value" treats is how I train very young puppies to heel (I had my colleague's Cav doing an off-lead heel by about 4 months old) and was an essential part of my Agility training. You can't beat hotdog bits for motivation.
Anon who sad:
>>It seems pretty clear that some people would rather tolerate having the dog in charge of the walk than to put in the time to work and practice. And if so, that's fine.<<
EXCELLENT observation! I call this "You have the dog you want" when people complain to me that their dog misbehaves, but refuse to take me up on my advice to fix it, even if it is an easy fix, not a real tough problem. I have a patient who was quite the biter as a puppy. I corrected him and he never tried to bite me again, but his people came in every visit with scrapes and scratches on their arms. We talked and talked about ways to train him, but they never took my advice. They kept complaining what a "bad" puppy he was, as he sat quietly on my table and let me examine and vaccinate him with no one holding him.
Zick: Cute babies! I will now slink back to my blog and stop monopolizing yours.
~Kathi, all trained out
Julie,
I go through stages with Buster on walking behavior and the whole pulling Boston Terrier thing. I usually get reved up to train him after a late night showing of the Dog Whisperer, or right after I've quit dropping f-bombs after he's pulled my arm out of joint making a right turn after a bunny.
He will walk okay next to me on a short leash if I'm by myself, but he doesn't like it! When I've got the baby in the stroller he's just too leary of being next to the stroller.
So in the end I give up and just enjoy his little butt (and kickstand) as it wiggles in front of me.
What's really fun is walking Jack, Reggie and Buster all at once. Jack is the sled dog and doesn't really even stop walking to poop. Reggie has to walk to the right of everyone, and Buster frenetically stops and crosses lines and pees and chases stuff.
Andy P.
Have you ever seen Cesar Millan on the Dog Whisperer show on the Nat'l Geographic cable channel? He deals with this issue all the time - the web site is
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/dogwhisperer/aboutshow.php
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